Friday, January 05, 2007

What David Kirby Never Said About "Autism Every Day"

Not everything that comes from David Kirby is crap, at least it didn't use to be. Check out this passage from a 1998 article of his titled From soft words to hard fists - anti-gay rhetoric may lead to violence:

Does rhetoric spark violence? Most gay men and lesbians would answer with a resounding yes. Many activists believe a right-wing, antigay campaign launched earlier this year fanned the flames of intolerance flint ultimately killed Matthew Shepard. They point to the remarks of Senate majority leader Trent Lott, who compared gays to alcoholics and kleptomaniacs, as well as the ex-gay ad campaign.

That Trent Lott is no doubt one of the most bigotted politicians of modern times. But at least he didn't say homosexuals attack everybody, bite their mothers and ruin property with rivers of diarrhea. And keep in mind that Lott might have been referring to, you know, a small subset of homosexuals with some syndrome he made up. No, seriously, how is what David Kirby said about autistic children any different to what Trent Lott said, or to this, or this?

Why is discourse important? Let me again quote David Kirby:

Brian Levin, a criminologist and director of Stockton College's Center on Hate and Extremism, cites a rhetorical link to all hate offenders. "They share prejudicial stereotypes that label certain groups of people as appropriate targets for attack," says Levin. "For a certain segment of impressionable, misguided, and violence-prone youth, derogatory statements made in the social and political discourse are perceived to give them license to brutalize gays and lesbians."

So what happened since 1998? Did David Kirby forget all about this? Was he unwilling to rock the boat or something? I want to give Mr. Kirby the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he never heard of the "Autism Every Day" video, since he's not really that connected to the autism community.

29 comments:

  1. On Paul Cameron's list (the second link) omitted is the infamous bisexual, psychopathic murderer Charles Manson.

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  2. Joe; I think the difference here is that the only people who want to see autistic children suffer are the folks from neuroinsanity.

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  3. Straw Forebrain -

    What is neuroinsanity? Is that a real concept? Are there people who claim to want any children to suffer?

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  4. Fore Sam: Why would you even comment on this thread when your views are the following?

    "Some "brilliant" goofball coined the term "Homophobia" in a pathetic attempt to bring some small measure of respectability to a perversion. Fortunately for me, I grew up in an era when people were not subjected to public acceptance of sexual perversion. I never "stomped" a queer and I don't approve of that behavior. I also don't want to have to hear about this nonsense portrayed as anything near normalcy. It has nothing to do with fear which means there is no phobia."

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  5. Neuroinsane (def.) A gambler.

    Neuroinsanity (def.) 1. Being convinced one can make one's living by the proceeds from gambling. 2. Those who lament that taking care of their children detracts from their ability to hustle golf or play the ponies.

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  6. Oh, John - if you only knew.

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  7. John Best is over there patting Kirby on the back on Huffpo. Kirby used to work for "Outweek," but is surprisingly closeted around the mercury parents. John forgot to give his advice to Kirby to get some self-respect. John says that people with self-respect aren't homosexuals. I think the problem is that Kirby has too much "self-respect" like a sociopath or narcissist has too much self-respect and gives himself a pass on every moral question.

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  8. John, maybe you can compare 9-irons and whack some balls together

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  9. "a small subset of homosexuals with some syndrome he made up."

    *golf clap*

    That's got to sting. DK - this is the part in the movie when you realize that you just got bitchslapped.

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  10. Anon; Instead of being forthright and claiming they want children to suffer, neuroinsanity claims that curing autism is killing the autistic person. With such inanity, this cult can convince some unaware people that there is anything good about being autistic when the truth is that it sucks. So, by working said illogic on unintelligent people, they convince some brain dead parents to not even bother investigating some treatments that might help their kids. I believe that is how Kevin Leitch became entrapped in this cult. No parent with any brains would fall for such nonsense.

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  11. Some autistic people do believe that an actual "cure" cannot happen unless you completely change the individual such that they are no longer the same person. But you are generalizing when you state that "neurodiversity" says this. Certainly, there are some autistic people who are pro-cure. You say autism sucks (always) and that there's nothing good about being autistic. Unless you are autistic, I fail to see how you've determined that.

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  12. So, Kirby used to out other gay people for a living and Huffpo's Kim Stagliano outs the private bathroom habits of her innocent young daughters. What a pair.

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  13. Joe; My other children were completely changed from the non-verbal, uneducated little people they were as babies into the bright young children they are now. For that matter, I didn't even know how to read the Daily Racing Form when I was a baby but I was changed completely by gaining that skill. So, I think it's a good idea if I can change Sam into an educated, verbal person rather than letting him remain like a baby.
    I'm trying to understand your logic. Am I accurate in assuming you would now accuse me of murdering my normal kids by helping them progress? Did I commit suicide by reading books and helping myself progress?

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  14. And you don't think autistic people change with time, albeit differently? You're confusing developmental progress with type of person. Common mistake. Amanda wrote a well thought out post on the matter here.

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  15. Nice comparison Joseph. I have a feeling that Kirby, like our progressive book reading friend here, doesn't see it this way because of their beliefs on cause.

    As long as you are convinced that mercury causes autism, you aren't offending autistic people. You are merely drawing attention to the symptoms of poisoning.

    I doubt even John would say the horrible things he says about children with Down Syndrome, for example, but then again nothing would surprise me from John Best.

    So maybe it would help Kirby to consider the words of those who say homosexuality is a disease or something to be cured. Some in utero exposure must make people gay, right? What's wrong with saying things like that with no proof? How is that any different than the crap he writes about autism?

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  16. Yeah, but I'm not sure even the victims at Minamata, for example, might have approved of "rivers of diarrhea" (if we were to assume that's actually a symptom of mercury poisoning).

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  17. NM; I don't think being gay or having autism have anything in common. Being gay is a choice. Nobody chose to be autistic.
    Knowing that mercury caused the autism epidemic is only offensive to drug companies and the medical profession because it exposes their negligence. It's not the least bit offensive to any autistic person. The cult of neurodiversity may try to make such an absurd claim but no rational person buys that BS.
    You can't compare Down's to autism either since Down's is genetic and incurable.
    Is there anything else I can enlighten you on tonight, NM?

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  18. Joe; Amanda would never pass a sanity hearing. Enough said for her opinions.

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  19. Many gay people, including perhaps David Kirby, might disagree with you, John, that homosexuality is a choice. (Homosexuality is highly heritable, but arguably less heritable than autism).

    FYI, the merit of Amanda's post is not contingent on your prejudgement of her, John.

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  20. You can't compare Down's to autism either since Down's is genetic and incurable.

    What about Down Syndrome people who are also autistic? That happens more often than the general population. Genetic or mercury?

    Is there anything else I can enlighten you on tonight, NM?

    Any more 'enlightenment' from you and I may choose river rafting with David Kirby.

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  21. Joe; I've conversed with Amanda many times so you can hardly call my assessment of her a prejudgement.
    This homosexuality inheritance idea is something new to me. Do you really mean to suggest that it is inherited from straight parents? Maybe it skips a generation? No, that doesn't sound right either. So, how does it start? Is it a genetic mutation? Do you think it's also caused by mercury?
    Here's my opinion. I went into a lesbian bar once a long time ago, just out of curiosity. No man would have wanted any of them. Based on that, I'd have to guess they were lesbians because it was their only option. As for gay men, I don't have a clue.

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  22. NM, "Genetic or mercury?" Both.

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  23. Autism in Down's is caused by mercury? Get out, John. You're banned for the remainder of this thread.

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  24. "This homosexuality inheritance idea is something new to me. Do you really mean to suggest that it is inherited from straight parents?"

    LOL!

    I'm sorry John - you really missed your vocation in life - I'm sure you're an excellent greenkeeper at the Londonderry Country Club, but really, Village Idiot is much more your thing.

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  26. Does JB Handley's Generation Rescue really use John Best as a spokesmodel?

    Does Handley agree with the homophobia?

    Will Handley let Clay Aiken cover his mouth without retracting? What if that hand has been touching Best?

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  28. What part of "you're banned for the remainder of the thread" was unclear, John? If you have something to say, use your blog.

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