tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post5170275912844353516..comments2009-04-23T10:24:58.261-07:00Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-78798045468155769682009-04-23T10:24:00.000-07:002009-04-23T10:24:00.000-07:00@Ryan: Is it your habit to psychoanalyze and fabricate assumptions about people over the internet whom you have never met? That's pretty sad. In fact, I feel sorry for you, apparently a simple salesman of fruit juice.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-25736703238419989752009-04-23T10:04:00.000-07:002009-04-23T10:04:00.000-07:00Joseph, <br /><br />I feel so sorry for you. You are obviously hurting and down so you try and bring others down around you. You should try and be more positive and open minded. It might benefit your own life and your childs. You can't honeslty sit her and tell people that getting 10-13 servings of fruit a day is not going to benefit them. I'll tell you what, I would be more than happy to give you a bottle or two.Ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-83255826543716433712008-05-02T16:24:00.000-07:002008-05-02T16:24:00.000-07:00It' so sad to see so many people stealing the positive feelings of parents that are struggling to help their children in any way. MOna vie has never claimed to cure or treat anything. But it is a fact that this juice contains some of the highest anti oxidants in the world and in it's most pure form. Most of what our bodies need to function is what is offered by our earth. Doctor prescribed medications is #3 in causes of death. <BR/> If your child can focus better and be helped with this product why not give it a try. Most distributors give away bottles for free for first time users. If it helps wonderful, if it doesn't then good luck on your quest to help your children be the best they can be.<BR/> But don't condemn these parents for being hopeful and positive sometimes that's all all you have when your world feels like it's crumbling around you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-62969130802471792562007-10-25T06:33:00.000-07:002007-10-25T06:33:00.000-07:00Thanks for the clarifications, Keith. However, I went and looked for Monavie over at Pubmed and found no entries. What are the double-blind studies you're referring to?Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-52467223445107373062007-10-24T21:53:00.000-07:002007-10-24T21:53:00.000-07:00I would like to make a statement about the websites and people promoting "cure all" with Mona Vie. The company has now issued a statement, in fact the founder has saying that distributors cannot have their own independent websites. Why? Because they want to control the content, so that all these claims are not posted. Yes Mona Vie does work and provides the body with necessary elements so it does the work to repair, remove oxidation, inflammation etc. <BR/><BR/>It's nice to know that Corporate is not allowing this as it's a credible product and they want to keep it that way.<BR/><BR/>Mona Vie is careful to say that it's a nutritional beverage that is good for you. Why is it successful...because distributors are willing to let you try the first bottle, most of them at no cost. Don't see other companie's distributors doing that do you?<BR/><BR/>That's another reason. We offer it because the chances are they will feel better, and continue. If not, well they usually get a bottle on the house.<BR/><BR/>KeithKG Hutsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00571458306500253562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-48410376573514933362007-10-24T21:48:00.000-07:002007-10-24T21:48:00.000-07:00Mona Vie is the first product that has credible people of the science world, physicians tooting their horn. There is no other product with the scientic proof, double blind studies, credible people of all walks telling what it has done for them.<BR/><BR/>University after University is doing studies and posting what Mona Vie's components do for the human body. If this product didn't work it would be as successful as it is.<BR/><BR/>There are a number of products out there that are somewhat good, but there are people, like Sumner Redstone, CEO of CBS/Viacom, Geoff Bodine, Jon Paplebon, Wolfgang Puck, a complete basketball team, one of the nation's most respected women's physicians and the most respected economist of Wall Street, Maria Ramierez putting their reputation...putting their reputation on the line to back Mona Vie.<BR/><BR/>I suggest before anyone calls Mona Vie a scam that they do research because there are many, many more credible people out there in favor of it...in fact people you know and admire as well.<BR/><BR/>KeithKG Hutsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00571458306500253562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-84232242611439044662007-10-12T07:12:00.000-07:002007-10-12T07:12:00.000-07:00Alice: Many of the Autism Hub parents, including myself, have classically autistic children. Obviously, that's not what determines parental politics or negative worldviews.<BR/><BR/>I also don't buy that classic autistics, however disabled they are, can't experience life fully. Maybe they don't experience it they way you think is best or right, but they do. My son is a perfectly happy 6 year old, who obviously enjoys being alive, classic autism and everything.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-22005526906507253422007-10-11T21:47:00.000-07:002007-10-11T21:47:00.000-07:00If my 15 year old could blog like any of you and be sarcastic and funny, I also wouldn't be one of "those" parents who are trying anything and everything to get results. His life is miserable a lot of the time. It's very sad to watch a perfectly good body grow up and not be able to experience life to it's fullest without "mom or dad" standing two feet away looking pathetic. Give us a break. You are not watching your son waste away.Alicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07910386724565276877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-51452449946800059612007-10-02T06:49:00.000-07:002007-10-02T06:49:00.000-07:00Anon: Most autistic children are "recovering" from autism, if you want to look at it that way. Close to 90% will have expressive language. Most make developmental progress. The only ones who won't ever progress are perhaps those who are put in institutions.<BR/><BR/>How do you explain that all the children of parents in the Autism Hub are always making marked progress, even though they (by and large) don't do biomed?<BR/><BR/>The strange thing is that you won't find any convincing "recovered" children. They are always just "recovering".<BR/><BR/>Yes, things like this should be assumed not to work out of hand, until some real scientific evidence is presented that they do work. People need to think rationally about these things. For example, do you even know what the foundation of the belief that the GFCF diet works for autism is? Do you even know it's been completely discredited?Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-57409015147906363842007-10-02T01:43:00.000-07:002007-10-02T01:43:00.000-07:00I am a mother of a son recovering from autistm, through a long process of ABA, GFCF, and Pheiffer Clinic supplementation. My son speaks and attends school and is doing far better than we ever thought possible at diagnosis. Parents cannot reject everything out of hand. We have to explore what is being said and by whom. Yes, there are charletons. But to reject all bio-medical interventions would be defeatism. Our kids deserve better than that. I don't know anything about this nutritional drink but I felt saddened by the tone in this exchange.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-46875623339170255472007-09-27T09:19:00.000-07:002007-09-27T09:19:00.000-07:00Again, no one said the company claimed MonaVie can cure autism. I don't think they could do that, legally. But there are clearly people who are promoting it as a cure, treatment, something that will make autistic kids "improve", whatever you want to call it - not solely as a nutritious drink.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-10783195238302958632007-09-26T18:59:00.000-07:002007-09-26T18:59:00.000-07:00Monavie doesn't make any claims that it can cure! If a Monavie web site does make the claim that it can cure then it should be turned in to the main company, because that is a NO-NO! It's 100% fruit juice. The body needs this nutrition anyway. Try the monavie...if it helps great, but if it doesn't work don't take it. There isn't one product out there that will work for everyone. It's that straight forward, but why criticize if you haven't tried it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-37458375933998048612007-09-23T13:12:00.000-07:002007-09-23T13:12:00.000-07:00Geee...maybe we could get a volume discount and "cure" the whole bunch at once.Dadof6Autistickidshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08872142455240124466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-68209484150846713642007-09-22T22:19:00.000-07:002007-09-22T22:19:00.000-07:00Frankly I am sick and tired of people lying to families for their own gain. Too many people are not only being hurt, families that are financially and emotionaly fragile are taken to the cleaners by charlattans and snake oil salesman. They should be ashamed of themselves targeting the disabled and playing with peoples lives. We have to stop using these "so called" biomedical interventions because some of them have lead to fatalities (chelation). Even if Monavie is just berry juice deceiving families with it is wrong. Go make your money some other way and leave our children alone!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-7685104045317787232007-09-20T18:49:00.000-07:002007-09-20T18:49:00.000-07:00"Are you being serious MJ? Do you think they are promoting it as a nutritious drink?"<BR/><BR/>I think for the most part the web site of the company is promoting it as a nutritional drink. It took me about five minutes of digging on the site to find the testimonial document that you were referring to. And I only found one other document (other than the newsgroups) that had anything to do autism.<BR/><BR/>So if you look at the general tone of the material on the site it is mostly about anti-oxidants, not autism.<BR/><BR/>So, yes, I am serious, I believe that the company is promoting it as a nutritional drink, not as the latest autism cure.MJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12033918835169823548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-41846227694180678772007-09-20T18:38:00.000-07:002007-09-20T18:38:00.000-07:00Are you being serious MJ? Do you think they are promoting it as a nutritious drink?<BR/><BR/>Those testimonials look like anything out of TACA or the AutismWeb biomed forum.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-4302509502351953142007-09-20T17:03:00.000-07:002007-09-20T17:03:00.000-07:00"What do you think the mom who said "I feel like the lord introduced this to my family not only to recover my son, but also spread the word to as many families as I can" meant?"<BR/><BR/>So you are taking a semi-religious statement by one mother as a general statement that the individuals involved with distributing and/or drinking this beverage promote it as a "autism recovery device" ?MJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12033918835169823548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-9860726769173220432007-09-20T07:14:00.000-07:002007-09-20T07:14:00.000-07:00<I>who and where in the material you are referencing are claiming that this is a cure for autism?</I><BR/><BR/>What do you think the mom who said "I feel like the lord introduced this to my family not only to <B>recover my son</B>, but also spread the word to as many families as I can" meant?<BR/><BR/>OK, let's be strict. It's not promoted as a cure, but an autism recovery device.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-21622378913347147792007-09-20T06:25:00.000-07:002007-09-20T06:25:00.000-07:00Poor James...11 years old and on<BR/>Ritalin, Prozac, and Seroquel<BR/><BR/>nothing like juice to replace powerful psychotropic drugs...Amandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-64740300912643253802007-09-20T05:26:00.000-07:002007-09-20T05:26:00.000-07:00Hmmm...sounds like Zeolite repackaged. After all, "superfood" sounds much more appealing than "volcanic ash" any day. :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-91798712047104397272007-09-19T18:38:00.000-07:002007-09-19T18:38:00.000-07:00"But other people are clearly saying that."<BR/><BR/>Then I must have missed it, who and where in the material you are referencing are claiming that this is a cure for autism?MJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12033918835169823548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-58576526886732876402007-09-19T17:25:00.000-07:002007-09-19T17:25:00.000-07:00"(For those who don't know ADHD is on the Autism spectrum)" -- Wow, you learn something every day.VABhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06652301858477760996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-35765228058255271972007-09-19T14:42:00.000-07:002007-09-19T14:42:00.000-07:00I didn't say the company is saying it's a cure. Obviously, it would be pretty bad, maybe illegal, if they said that. But other people are clearly saying that.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536734331366279894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-40026411180971325312007-09-19T14:19:00.000-07:002007-09-19T14:19:00.000-07:00"But hold on. MonaVie apparently not only cures autism and a number of other maladies"<BR/><BR/>Where on the site does the company claim it cures autism? I saw the research document that talks about the benefits of anti-oxidants, the infomercial style testimonials document, and the newsgroups posting. <BR/><BR/>But none of that is the company saying this is a cure.<BR/><BR/>This isn't alternative medicine - this is junk mlm marketing materials.MJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12033918835169823548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22861867.post-7067906625503173252007-09-19T13:40:00.000-07:002007-09-19T13:40:00.000-07:00I think there are probably more Dense Fruits in the testimonials than there are in the product.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Mona is an allusion to a Da Vinci and more 'secret knowledge'. Hidden appeals abound.Patrickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04747506313119140677noreply@blogger.com